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Tupac Interviews
George Tam w/ Right On

In part two of an interview with Thug Immortal director George Tam, he discloses unknown facts about Tupac Shakur that he learned during the making of his documentary.

Right On!: What do you remember the most about making the documentary?

George Tam: The events that led to Tupac's death. It seems that he started an argument with a guy, Anderson at a casino. The argument was over a chain that someone in the entourage said was stolen from him. He said, "That's the guy who robbed me?" And this is a Crip and Blood matter now. Apparently Tupac was on of the first to go over there and start hitting the guy. These are the seeds that lead to Tupac's death. But the police don't have the necessary proof to move. Any drive-by is a waste, but this happens to be a high level drive-by. After learning so much about Tupac I started getting depressed and had to stop working on the project for a little while.

What is your viewpoint on Tupac Shakur?

Tupac had so much to offer. The more I found out about him, the more I respected him. I met somebody who said, "I met some people who said they knew Tupac but they weren't friends, they were acquaintances. A lot of people were on the fringes. One person said, "This is how you can tell if they knew him. Ask the person, "Do you love Tupac or do you hate Tupac?" If the person answers "yes" to both questions, than they really knew him." I found that very profound.

That's the relationship he had with his mom.

I call it the Gemini effect. He seemed to be proud of it. He liked being a Gemini, in fact whenever he met one, he'd go, "All right!" I feel like I spent half a year in his skin.

With that being the case, how did you feel when you discovered The Notorious B.I.G. had been killed?

After just dealing with the hip-hop community for a short period of time, I knew that something was going to to happen to somebody, but at first I didn't believe it. My distributor called and told me. But the difference between Tupac and Biggie was that Biggie was special, but Tupac was important. I thought to myself, "There's no reason for anyone to die that way." It's pointless. Thugs and gangsters don't rap. Biggie and Tupac were trying to be hard, but they weren't. Tupac was talking about being the underboss, and with that kind of movie nonsense, you're opening yourself to a whole universe of bad dudes who say, "Okay, you're talking my language." Fish don't swim with sharks. Chubb Rock did something about the Chubbfather and Snoop did Tha Doggfather, but when you're talking about AKs and you're the mack, you're asking for trouble. The gangster rap thing is pretty dead at this point.

We disagree. It's still popular. There are still parts of the United States where it will remain popular. But there are people walking away from it because it's not just entertainment anymore; people are getting killed. It's too real.

They all know people who have been killed. But Tupac was a trendsetter, and he was thinking about steering away from that kind of music. He probably would have been the first rapper to have had an album produced by someone on the level of a Quincy Jones instead of having basement or garage beats. I think he was an actor first, a poet second and a rapper third. I think the rap was making him the most money, so he was sticking with it.

What else can you tell us about him?

Did you know he was supposed to be in Cool Runnings? He was also up for How To Be A Player. The more I found out about him, the more impressed I was. It was a shame. Inadvertently he shielded Suge Knight by trying to jump into the back of the car. I have to stop thinking about the roll of the dice. I think at the age of 40, he would have been heavily into the political community. And he was thinking about teaching, too. He was looking into getting into the educational system. I think he would have been another Malcolm X with that hard-lined bulletproof logic. Not some fly by night statement. He had developed that train of thought even earlier than Malcolm. And now we won't see it. Now, through my documentary, you can get some insight, although you can't tell his life story in 90 minutes. At least this is a start. It's not about the bandanas and the tattoos. He was a young master. He had mastered rap at age 18. He was also passing on the knowledge of the game. No one else was creating protégés. He would have been even greater in the future.

 

   

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