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George Tam w/ Right On In part two of an interview with Thug Immortal
director George Tam, he discloses unknown facts about Tupac Shakur that he
learned during the making of his documentary.
Right On!: What do you
remember the most about making the documentary?
George Tam: The
events that led to Tupac's death. It seems that he started an argument with a
guy, Anderson at a casino. The argument was over a chain that someone in the
entourage said was stolen from him. He said, "That's the guy who robbed
me?" And this is a Crip and Blood matter now. Apparently Tupac was on of
the first to go over there and start hitting the guy. These are the seeds that
lead to Tupac's death. But the police don't have the necessary proof to move.
Any drive-by is a waste, but this happens to be a high level drive-by. After
learning so much about Tupac I started getting depressed and had to stop working
on the project for a little while.
What is your viewpoint on Tupac
Shakur?
Tupac had so much to offer. The more I found out about him,
the more I respected him. I met somebody who said, "I met some people who
said they knew Tupac but they weren't friends, they were acquaintances. A lot of
people were on the fringes. One person said, "This is how you can tell if
they knew him. Ask the person, "Do you love Tupac or do you hate Tupac?"
If the person answers "yes" to both questions, than they really knew
him." I found that very profound.
That's the relationship he had
with his mom.
I call it the Gemini effect. He seemed to be proud of
it. He liked being a Gemini, in fact whenever he met one, he'd go, "All
right!" I feel like I spent half a year in his skin.
With that
being the case, how did you feel when you discovered The Notorious B.I.G. had
been killed?
After just dealing with the hip-hop community for a
short period of time, I knew that something was going to to happen to somebody,
but at first I didn't believe it. My distributor called and told me. But the
difference between Tupac and Biggie was that Biggie was special, but Tupac was
important. I thought to myself, "There's no reason for anyone to die that
way." It's pointless. Thugs and gangsters don't rap. Biggie and Tupac were
trying to be hard, but they weren't. Tupac was talking about being the underboss,
and with that kind of movie nonsense, you're opening yourself to a whole
universe of bad dudes who say, "Okay, you're talking my language."
Fish don't swim with sharks. Chubb Rock did something about the Chubbfather and
Snoop did Tha Doggfather, but when you're talking about AKs and you're
the mack, you're asking for trouble. The gangster rap thing is pretty dead at
this point.
We disagree. It's still popular. There are still parts of
the United States where it will remain popular. But there are people walking
away from it because it's not just entertainment anymore; people are getting
killed. It's too real.
They all know people who have been killed. But
Tupac was a trendsetter, and he was thinking about steering away from that kind
of music. He probably would have been the first rapper to have had an album
produced by someone on the level of a Quincy Jones instead of having basement or
garage beats. I think he was an actor first, a poet second and a rapper third. I
think the rap was making him the most money, so he was sticking with it.
What
else can you tell us about him?
Did you know he was supposed to be in
Cool Runnings? He was also up for How To Be A Player. The more I
found out about him, the more impressed I was. It was a shame. Inadvertently he
shielded Suge Knight by trying to jump into the back of the car. I have to stop
thinking about the roll of the dice. I think at the age of 40, he would have
been heavily into the political community. And he was thinking about teaching,
too. He was looking into getting into the educational system. I think he would
have been another Malcolm X with that hard-lined bulletproof logic. Not some fly
by night statement. He had developed that train of thought even earlier than
Malcolm. And now we won't see it. Now, through my documentary, you can get some
insight, although you can't tell his life story in 90 minutes. At least this is
a start. It's not about the bandanas and the tattoos. He was a young master. He
had mastered rap at age 18. He was also passing on the knowledge of the game. No
one else was creating protégés. He would have been even greater in the future.
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